Dave Beran on Real Talent with Phil Gaimon

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peloton-brief-podcast-real-talent-with-phil-gaimon/id1090662866?mt=2

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/real-talent-with-phil-gaimon

https://www.youtube.com/philgaimonshow

https://open.spotify.com/show/3vKBF0PpLI8EXjMNlRbEeW?si=bEyXXc_GRf2mgmEHu7aA2w

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